![]() I think most people love undertale because it's brilliantly written, the LGBT stuff is a garnish at most. It sounds a bit like you're searching for something "problematic" in Undertale to try and discredit positive opinions by showing inconsistencies by people you don't like. I think if you count having the option to have a non-voiced, non-acted, essentially blank child player avatar character has a vague option to "flirt" (not "arouse" or "seduce") with characters who aren't necessarily adult themselves (Toriel and Asgore are since they have a child but Papyrus, Undyne, Sans and Alphys are ambiguous since the game works on children's fantasy logic) and they don't flirt back (in fact they actively discourage it and say they don't feel the same way in some instances) and has no overtly sexual content as having "paedophillic tendencies" then you're being extremely keen to see them. The reason nobody is calling Undertale out isn't because the makers or fans are missing anything, it seems to be because you are setting the bar for what counts as "pedophilic content" lower than even basic broadcast mainstream American Television. Nobody called those out as pedophilic because most people thought it wasn't, the tone and context was not meant to be sexual, and most audiences buy that as acceptable justification for fiction, that you disagree is fine, but irrelevant. There have been far raunchier interactions between children and adults in all kinds of fiction, Family guy makes it a running joke with Stewie, South Park has definitely done it, and with explicit mentions of sex on top, even the Simpsons has done it in a more explicit fashion than anything in Undertale. Yeah no, there are some things that Undertale does represent that is meant to actually be thought about (it's incredible meta-commentary about the state of gaming and the common mindsets of gamers), but this? Either intentional or accidentally looking for a problem that doesn't exist.Ĭlick to expand.Really? flirting and going on a couple of dates with questionably adult characters where nothing happens is not some terrible pedophilic action that requires the comments you seem to think it does, Undertale has nothing that would earn it more than a PG rating if it were a movie. ![]() I was going to start listing some of the content in Undertale just to note the type of atmosphere that people who bring up comments like this don't seem to be getting, but between the ghost who cries and makes his own hat, Tsunderplane, donating to the Spider Bakesale, -everything- about Mettaton. Maybe not as bad as them (because they were fucking nuts), but still there's no reason to see more into something than what actually exists. As for the content in the game: yeah, you kinda remind me of the "Twilight Princess is pushing the Bestiality/Pedophilia/Dominatrix/Furry Agenda" people. And how it succeeds despite a $10 price tag, being better written and designed than most AAA games made with 6x the cost and easily several times the budget. I was under the assumption that so many people like Undertale because Undertale is one of the best, well written games of this generation, to the point where even Yahtzee recommends it. I mean, maybe I'm forgetting some lines somewhere, but none of the flirting comes off as pedophilic, it all seems pretty childish and innocent. The flirting with toriel especially, is about how many adults react to kids just starting puberty that flirt with them, embarrassment, maybe make a silly joke, then shrug it off. We don't really know Frisks age, but can probably assume he's at least 10, and at that age kids will flirt with either kids their own age or with adults they might have crush's on, it's not pedophilic to have a kid flirt with you if nothing actually comes of it. ![]() The flirting mechanic seems totally innocent, Frisk isn't making overtly sexual comments, we don't even really know exactly what he's saying, and the characters (which are of very ambiguous ages themselves), don't really respond in anything other than an innocent fashion either. ![]() The game doesn't actually seem to treat the dates as sexual in nature, and in both of them nothing happens, Papyrus is too oblivious and seems to think dating is just another form of friendship, whereas Alphys pretty much treats you like a kid with a crush, using your date as an excuse to build up her confidence to talk to Undyne. ![]()
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